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. >> and paul wrien. >>> and paul ryan. any leader who the rebels, shall we say, within the republican conference could have, is now aligned with wehner completely. strengths his hand. he's the sole negotiate, whatever he gets from president obama will be the rule of law. and i think what's really emboldened boehner, ironically, mitt romney's loss. it's this idea that john boehner's survived, he's the one who came through. we were able to keep the house. he does get a lot of credit for that among house republican circles, they were able to keep the house. people think -- >> he raised something like 100 million dollars. >> he's the kingmaker. i suspect that, from folks that i've talked to, eric cantor will not be a thorn in boehner's side. eric cantor realizes he has time, niece his 40s, he wants to be the first jewish speaker of the house. sit back, relax, you know what? if boehner becomes unpopular you don't have to lead a charge against him. you can say, well, that's too bad, john, you don't have the support. but he doesn
. >> and paul wrien. >>> and paul ryan. any leader who the rebels, shall we say, within the republican conference could have, is now aligned with wehner completely. strengths his hand. he's the sole negotiate, whatever he gets from president obama will be the rule of law. and i think what's really emboldened boehner, ironically, mitt romney's loss. it's this idea that john boehner's survived, he's the one who came through. we were able to keep the house. he does get a lot of...
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i'm so struck seeing paul ryan at the jack kemp dinner. i don't know how you can can idol i idolize rand and jack kemp. jack kemp saying, of course, we don't forget about anyone or leave anyone behind, and ian rand says you leave behind anyone that can't fend for themselves. >> i think it's paul ryan trying now for at least a year to leave rand behind, and he's said -- he's tried to back away from all that. i think when you listen to both ryan and rubio today, this isn't like st. paul getting blinded by a new truth. these guys are practical politicians who saw the damage the 47% did and are changing their rhetoric. most of those speeches were standard conservatism. i think the fact they change the rhetoric is a really big deal. since ronald reagan it's been liberals that adjusted to conservative ideas. the beginning of that was bill clinton saying the era of big government is over. i think this is the first time in three decades where conservatives have been pushed or forced by theç reality of politics and an election results to aadjust
i'm so struck seeing paul ryan at the jack kemp dinner. i don't know how you can can idol i idolize rand and jack kemp. jack kemp saying, of course, we don't forget about anyone or leave anyone behind, and ian rand says you leave behind anyone that can't fend for themselves. >> i think it's paul ryan trying now for at least a year to leave rand behind, and he's said -- he's tried to back away from all that. i think when you listen to both ryan and rubio today, this isn't like st. paul...
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>> if i was paul ryan, i would want to be something else. if i was selected vice president and i got slaughtered in my -- and my candidate got slaughtered in my home state, i would be looking to have a makeover also. i don't blame him. i think that senator rubio could run on anything he wants. i agree. if he wants to run on economic expertise, perceived economic expertise, it's a good thing for him to do it. he should do that. it's apparently what he believed before. if paul ryan wants to believe that the best thing to make a child study is a toothache, that's what he believed before. if he wants to change his mind, that's his business too. i don't fault any of these guys. and 2016, the political commentators, the more politics, the better it is. >> looks like we're starting tonight, james ryan. >> yeah, all for it. he's great. >> this is actually a really interesting development, in my view. i think if you're looking at paul ryan, one thing you hear from folks in the ryan camp, is that he was very eager to talk about poverty and a new war o
>> if i was paul ryan, i would want to be something else. if i was selected vice president and i got slaughtered in my -- and my candidate got slaughtered in my home state, i would be looking to have a makeover also. i don't blame him. i think that senator rubio could run on anything he wants. i agree. if he wants to run on economic expertise, perceived economic expertise, it's a good thing for him to do it. he should do that. it's apparently what he believed before. if paul ryan wants to...
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the two on the budget committee voted against paul ryan's budget. the chairman of the budget committee. speaker boehner issued these punishments with the full support of the republican leadership including the majority leader eric cantor and majority whip kevin mccarthy. jonathan capehart, this is fascinating. i am interpreting this as a positive thing for president obama and the democrats in an attempt to at some point either before or after going off the cliff, reaching some kind of deal with boehner. what boehner's message seems to be to these conservatives willing to vote for something because it is not conservative enough. i need better team players if i'm going to walk back from the white house with a deal. i need your vote on it. >> right. by removing the two from the house budget committee, they basically, what he's doing is putting in people who will do what he says. people who will get him the votes out of the budget committee that would then make it possible for him to take it to the floor and get a big vote. we will see it as much as las
the two on the budget committee voted against paul ryan's budget. the chairman of the budget committee. speaker boehner issued these punishments with the full support of the republican leadership including the majority leader eric cantor and majority whip kevin mccarthy. jonathan capehart, this is fascinating. i am interpreting this as a positive thing for president obama and the democrats in an attempt to at some point either before or after going off the cliff, reaching some kind of deal with...
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marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are speeches where they're trying to define who they are. how would a rubio ryan stack up against clinton? it sort of feels like 2008 reversed except experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and youth might come from rubio or ryan on the republican side. >> clinton is a favorite among young people, especially young women. they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and perhaps big ideas and a larger goal post. but i want to say this because i have to say this as vice chair of the party. as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad and deep base including vice president biden, who's done a terrific job in his capacity as the second in command, but also, we have governors. a lot of diversity. duval patrick and we can all look as governor cuomo, you have elizabeth warren that might be considered presidential. so i don't wa
marco rubio and paul ryan spoke at this dinner. these are speeches where they're trying to define who they are. how would a rubio ryan stack up against clinton? it sort of feels like 2008 reversed except experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and youth might come from rubio or ryan on the republican side. >> clinton is a favorite among young people, especially young women. they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're...
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. >>> plus, a big night for paul ryan and senator marco rubio. did they just make a big announcannouncement? you'll hear it for yourself. >>> the senator is blasting president obama for his handling or lack of handling of the fiscal crisis. senator is warning it's increasingly clear that the president is comfortable going off the cliff. he joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thanks for having me. >> so you think the president is comfortable or does he want to go off the cliff? >> well, he's being advised to go off the cliff. howard dean has said it. papatty murray said they shouldo over the cliff. i think the president sees a political victory for his party if they go over the cliff. i know republicans are concerned that there's going to be a second recession if we go over the cliff. >> what does he gain from going over the cliff? >> well, taxes go up on everyone which gives the president lots of additional money to spend on new government programs. additionally, he has all these military cuts that many liberal democrats have been hoping for for y
. >>> plus, a big night for paul ryan and senator marco rubio. did they just make a big announcannouncement? you'll hear it for yourself. >>> the senator is blasting president obama for his handling or lack of handling of the fiscal crisis. senator is warning it's increasingly clear that the president is comfortable going off the cliff. he joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> thanks for having me. >> so you think the president is comfortable or does he want to go off...
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paul ryan, that guy has a widow's peak. that's weird. that's different. and that guy, sure, that guy looks like your average local news anchor, but that other guy near him looks like your average sports announcer. so the bland white guy with glasses, that guy's nearsighted, but this other guy with glasses, that has as stigmatism. what's that? really, nearsighted as well? all right. at should we invest i? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced teacher education. let's build a strong foundation. let's invest in our teachers so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. flavor boost, meet beef. it's swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth to add delicious flavor to your skillet dish in just one stir. mmm! [ female announcer ] cook, meet compliments. get recipes at flavorboost.com. military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared
paul ryan, that guy has a widow's peak. that's weird. that's different. and that guy, sure, that guy looks like your average local news anchor, but that other guy near him looks like your average sports announcer. so the bland white guy with glasses, that guy's nearsighted, but this other guy with glasses, that has as stigmatism. what's that? really, nearsighted as well? all right. at should we invest i? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research...
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he was a mentor to paul ryan. you know, ryan got the award last year, the first year this foundation gave out the award. rubio got it this year. >> ryan and rubio talked about as potential contenders for 2016. and they even joked about it. >> they did. right off the bat. in both their speeches both guys got it out of the way. here's what they said. >> as you may know, marco is joining an elite group of past recipients fors this past award. two of us so far. i'll see you at the reunion dinner. table for two. know any good diners in new hampshire or iowa. >> paul, thank you for your invitation for lunch in iowa or new hampshire, but i will not stand by and watch the people of south carolina ignored. >> i don't have to tell you this, you're from iowa, iowa and new hampshire and south carolina traditionally lead off the presidential primary and caucus calendar. listen, it will be a lot of talk about these guys, in the spotlig spotlight, but 2016 a long way away. >> marco rubios has already been to iowa. >> already. >>
he was a mentor to paul ryan. you know, ryan got the award last year, the first year this foundation gave out the award. rubio got it this year. >> ryan and rubio talked about as potential contenders for 2016. and they even joked about it. >> they did. right off the bat. in both their speeches both guys got it out of the way. here's what they said. >> as you may know, marco is joining an elite group of past recipients fors this past award. two of us so far. i'll see you at the...
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> senator marco rubio was honored last night at the dinner for the kent pound dafoundation featured paul ryan who wasted no time trying out some 2016 jokes. >> marco is joining in an elite group of past recipients for this award. two of us so far, i'll see you at the reunion dinner, table for two, do you know any good diners in new hampshire, iowa? >> you get it. when rubio took the stage, he revealed to the crowd that he paid off his student loans from law school just this year. thanks to the sale of his book. >>> well, casino billionaire who reportedly spent $150 million on mostly losing republican campaigns this year tells the "wall street journal" he'll double down on his donations next time, that he will not have to look far to find the money. the journal says he's just received a $1.2 billion bonus from his sands corporation ahead of any tax increases that come could come out of the fiscal cliff negotiations. >>> and finally, politico reports ashley judd is seriously considering a run for mitch mcconnell's senate seat in kentucky. judd has talked with new york senator gillibrand an
> senator marco rubio was honored last night at the dinner for the kent pound dafoundation featured paul ryan who wasted no time trying out some 2016 jokes. >> marco is joining in an elite group of past recipients for this award. two of us so far, i'll see you at the reunion dinner, table for two, do you know any good diners in new hampshire, iowa? >> you get it. when rubio took the stage, he revealed to the crowd that he paid off his student loans from law school just this year....
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this is paul ryan. >> an election is coming along and people made their choice. policy makers still have a duty to choose between ideas that work and those that don't. when one economic after another failed our working families, it is no answer to express compassion for them or create more government programs that offer promise and don't perform . we must come together and advance new strategies. our complicated and uncertain tax code is hindering the jobs. you can't open a business if your tax rate is too high or uncertain. i personally oppose the president's plan to raise taxes. [applause] listen, this is not about a pledge. it is not about protecting millionaires and billionaires. for me it is the fact that tax increases he wants would fail to make a small dent in the debt but it would hurt the middle class business and people who work for them. >> gretchen: this is what the campaign was about . people are sick i and tired of hearing the same talking points . people want to see actual tax reform. get the job done and the kick the can down the road is what we h
this is paul ryan. >> an election is coming along and people made their choice. policy makers still have a duty to choose between ideas that work and those that don't. when one economic after another failed our working families, it is no answer to express compassion for them or create more government programs that offer promise and don't perform . we must come together and advance new strategies. our complicated and uncertain tax code is hindering the jobs. you can't open a business if...
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last night paul ryan distanced himself from his running mate's remarks. take a look. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we must speak to aspirations and anxieties of every american. >> you know, it's hardly a montç and he's gone already. what a running mate. he ran away from his mate. the problem for republicans in 2012 is that romney failed to speak to those aspirations and anxieties just mentioned. in a much read analysis david winstin argues romney lashed him to george w. bush. the bottom line is romney could not counter the obama narrative that he wanted to go back to the policies that got the country in trouble in the first place. this was largely due to his campaign's strategic decision to try to make the election solely a referendum on obama. as a result, there was little clear rationale for a romney presidency, other than he would not be obama. david winstin joins us, adviser to john boehner, unpaid, advised newt beginning rich. david, th
last night paul ryan distanced himself from his running mate's remarks. take a look. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that trap. we must speak to aspirations and anxieties of every american. >> you know, it's hardly a montç and he's gone already. what a running mate. he ran away from his mate. the problem for republicans in 2012 is that romney failed to speak to those aspirations...
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budget chairman paul ryan also signed on though he is a little more wobbly in a new interview with "time" magazine. quote, he says this. i believe in this budget fight that you can get to common ground without compromising principles. he says after his speech practice. but moments later according to "time" he declares common ground is possible only so long as the tax rates are not going up. advisers have admitted to "time" something that is hardly a shock. ryan is eying a run for president. and though ryan told the magazine i've decided not to decide when it comes to presidential ambitions. another guy who clearly has 2016 in mind louisiana governor bobby jindal weighs in on the fiscal cliff in politico in an op-ed this morning and check this out. at present any reading of the headlines over the past week indicates that republicans are fighting to protect the rich and cut benefits for seniors. it may be possible to have worse political positions than that, but i'm not sure how. obviously he is another person that says, cave on the rates issue and start negotiating on everything else. fin
budget chairman paul ryan also signed on though he is a little more wobbly in a new interview with "time" magazine. quote, he says this. i believe in this budget fight that you can get to common ground without compromising principles. he says after his speech practice. but moments later according to "time" he declares common ground is possible only so long as the tax rates are not going up. advisers have admitted to "time" something that is hardly a shock. ryan is...
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so what boehner's done is said here's, we're as a team including paul ryan, suggesting this. what you have is some firming up on the conservative side, which i think says boehner, this is probably about as far as you can go. >> right. exactly. and so since joe said, so what is the outcome? what is your -- a compromise, you want to get a deal done, what do you think is possible here as a final tactic? >> i think you could create a -- what i would recommend doing is create a small package that shows the debt markets, not the american people, the debt markets that we're serious about what we're going to do, that you put a drop-dead date on the tax code like july 31st of next year. you have to reform the code. got this money and done it by then. otherwise there's no code. which means -- which is actually better in terms of really creating a more progressive tax code which most of my friends on the left would like to see, and sitting down and talking about here's what has to happen in terms of medicare, medicaid and social security. most people don't realize, part "d" -- i mean so
so what boehner's done is said here's, we're as a team including paul ryan, suggesting this. what you have is some firming up on the conservative side, which i think says boehner, this is probably about as far as you can go. >> right. exactly. and so since joe said, so what is the outcome? what is your -- a compromise, you want to get a deal done, what do you think is possible here as a final tactic? >> i think you could create a -- what i would recommend doing is create a small...
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florida senator marco rubio and congressman paul ryan of wisconsin appearing together last night at the jack kemp foundation awards dinner washington. listen to mitt romney's former running mate softening the rhetoric. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that track. we must speaks to the aspirations and the anxieties of every american. >> senator rubio weighing in on the fiscal cliff debate and the idea of raising tax rates for the wealthy saying we need to make poor people richer, not rich people poorer. soledad. >> that's the kind of thinking that will get you votes, right? >> all right. thanks, zoraida. >> new york city police could be close to charging a suspect in that fatal subway push. they say a man is now being questioned and has implicated himself in this case. a front page "new york post" photo has become the source of a lot of controversy. it shows the victim desperately trying to climb up from the tracks as the train approaches. this morning we're hearing that the photographer
florida senator marco rubio and congressman paul ryan of wisconsin appearing together last night at the jack kemp foundation awards dinner washington. listen to mitt romney's former running mate softening the rhetoric. >> both parties tend to divide americans into our voters and their voters. let's be really clear. republicans must steer far clear of that track. we must speaks to the aspirations and the anxieties of every american. >> senator rubio weighing in on the fiscal cliff...
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paul ryan mentioned poverty a dozen times. marco rubio's focusing on the middle class and economic empowerment agenda for the middle class. but when marco rubio was giving his speech, he didn't mention the word "romney" once, and there was a message in that. and that was that he's turning the page. and so that passage that you were just talking to is his idea that there's a new conservatism that can appeal to more people -- that more people in society, people in even, say, the 47%, can be convinced that conservatives can help them. >> all right. mike allen. >> harold, would you like to crinkle up some more papers? >> i apologize. i was getting excited with this paper. learning how to fold. >> he was teaching him how to do origami. i thought it wasn't the right time. >> paper airplanes. very impressed with what i saw of marco rubio yesterday and how he handled the science question. he was light afoot. i thought he handle it had very well. >> ran the gauntlet of the mike allen primary, which is a key part of anyone getting elect
paul ryan mentioned poverty a dozen times. marco rubio's focusing on the middle class and economic empowerment agenda for the middle class. but when marco rubio was giving his speech, he didn't mention the word "romney" once, and there was a message in that. and that was that he's turning the page. and so that passage that you were just talking to is his idea that there's a new conservatism that can appeal to more people -- that more people in society, people in even, say, the 47%,...
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this is the first time boehner got his entire leadership team, including cantor and paul ryan to sign a plan that called for the raising of revenue. so what is the republican counteroffer? $800 billion in tax revenue by closing loopholes and deductions. should point out that would affect families with an income of $250,000 or more. >> brian: they're going to leave the charitable deduction and talking about leaving the mortgage deduction. there is other deductions. they got to get specific at this point. the selection over. >> gretchen: it would have included 600 billion in entitlement cuts and other programs, extends the bush era tax cuts for everybody and it raises the medicare retirement age and, of course, democrats are very testy about that because they don't want to do that at all. i believe have raised it from 65 to 67. what's important is what steve alluded to, which is boehner -- >> brian: as opposed to what i allude to inasmuch but it included. >> gretchen: it included the top members of the republican party. eric cantor and paul ryan also signed on to this closing of the loo
this is the first time boehner got his entire leadership team, including cantor and paul ryan to sign a plan that called for the raising of revenue. so what is the republican counteroffer? $800 billion in tax revenue by closing loopholes and deductions. should point out that would affect families with an income of $250,000 or more. >> brian: they're going to leave the charitable deduction and talking about leaving the mortgage deduction. there is other deductions. they got to get specific...
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ryan over the intricacies of obama care. it was useful. this could be useful as well. >> i actually agree with will, l.z. i think it would be a real education for people. >> for what people? us. we're the ones that are into this kind of stuff. the american people, they're not. think about the number of people who still think president obama was not born in this country. think about the number of people who believe that president obama is not a christian despite the amount of information we tell them over and over again. they still hold on to their partisan values and thoughts. that's why i don't think this will be productive. because it doesn't really matter how much facts you give people. they're going to believe what they want to believe. >> i just saw the movie "lincoln." that gave me more faith in america. >> i saw "skyfall" instead. i'm thinking everybody's a spy. >> no. i mean honestly, you do wonder how much of this is posturing. so when senator lindsey graham comes out and says i'm sure we're going off the political
ryan over the intricacies of obama care. it was useful. this could be useful as well. >> i actually agree with will, l.z. i think it would be a real education for people. >> for what people? us. we're the ones that are into this kind of stuff. the american people, they're not. think about the number of people who still think president obama was not born in this country. think about the number of people who believe that president obama is not a christian despite the amount of...
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paul ryan stepped back into the spotlight late tuesday, with a feisty shot at the president. >> i congratulate him on his victory. but on january 20th, he'll face a stagnant economy and a fiscal mess. you might even say he'll inherit these problems. >> reporter: there's a lot of bah humbug in washington, d.c. these days. 'tis the season to be surly. the president told bloomberg television that without tax rates going up on the wealthiest americans, there will be no deal to avert going over the fiscal cliff. >> we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> reporter: house republicans are adamant, no tax rate increases. >> we're willing to put revenues on the table. revenues that come from closing loopholes, getting rid of special interest deductions and not raising rates. >> reporter: but what the republicans are offering sounds a lot like what the president wanted during last year's budget showdown. >> give us $1.2 trillion in additional revenues, which could be accomplished without hiking tax rates by eliminating loophole
paul ryan stepped back into the spotlight late tuesday, with a feisty shot at the president. >> i congratulate him on his victory. but on january 20th, he'll face a stagnant economy and a fiscal mess. you might even say he'll inherit these problems. >> reporter: there's a lot of bah humbug in washington, d.c. these days. 'tis the season to be surly. the president told bloomberg television that without tax rates going up on the wealthiest americans, there will be no deal to avert...
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instead of responding to that with what republicans have long pushed, for example, the paul ryan budget, they decided to go with this, which is in the words of one staffer, a plan that everybody detests. so they want to start with a framework that nobody likes because that way they each side will maybe be able to give a little bit more. this is definitely a big move, because the republicans are -- democrats said the ball was in their court. they obviously agreed. they're sending a proposal back to the president right now. >> message received. let me give you a moment to catch your breath and thank you as we're hearing stand by. we're getting this counterproposal, if you will, from republicans and as dana points out, initially it was an idea from a democrat, from erskine bowles who recently met with the president. so we now have the plan from the white house. we now have the counterplan from the republicans and perhaps in a matter of days they'll continue to meet in the middle. the really big sticking point when it comes to your tax and my taxes is the republicans want to extend the bush
instead of responding to that with what republicans have long pushed, for example, the paul ryan budget, they decided to go with this, which is in the words of one staffer, a plan that everybody detests. so they want to start with a framework that nobody likes because that way they each side will maybe be able to give a little bit more. this is definitely a big move, because the republicans are -- democrats said the ball was in their court. they obviously agreed. they're sending a proposal back...
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we saw a jack kemp yesterday where he had marco rubio and paul ryan addressing crowds. the republican party is trying to figure out where do we go from here and there's a lot of moving pieces as part of that. >> stu very much for that. of course here, we're keeping an eye on apple, a big turn around right now as you can see, up $4.41 after yesterday's 6% selloff. i heard in the show why one shareholder is sticking by his claim that the shares could hit $16.50 so that you would treble your money at the end of 2016. >> find out next just how many people believe right now is a good-time to invest. stay tuned. [ male announcer ] when it comes to the financial obstacles military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know military life is different. we've been there. that's why every bit of financial advice we offer is geared specifically to current and former military members and their families. [ laughs ] dad! dad! [ applause ] ♪ [ male announcer ] life brings obstacles. usaa brings advice. call or visit us online. we're ready to help. [ male announcer ] what can you
we saw a jack kemp yesterday where he had marco rubio and paul ryan addressing crowds. the republican party is trying to figure out where do we go from here and there's a lot of moving pieces as part of that. >> stu very much for that. of course here, we're keeping an eye on apple, a big turn around right now as you can see, up $4.41 after yesterday's 6% selloff. i heard in the show why one shareholder is sticking by his claim that the shares could hit $16.50 so that you would treble your...